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Saw will not turn on. Not sure what to check and need advice

My Delta 40-650 won't work. The saw worked well for a while, though it had a delayed start (apparently this is a feature so you have time to get your hands back to the workpiece). You hit the start switch and then it takes a second or two to start up.

Now, though, it does nothing. It has been a few months since I checked it (working on a project and haven't been able to mess with it), but iirc, it buzzed and did not move. I think it might be the capacitor, but idk.

I need to know what to look for and test because I don't know what symptoms to look for. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated!

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Hi @sanderguy777

Start by using an Ohmmeter (i.e. no power connected to the saw) to check if the Power On/Off switch is OK electrically and not open circuit.

If the switch is OK check if the speed switch is OK electrically and not open circuit.

The links were only to show the parts and their part numbers. If either one is faulty and needs to be replaced, search online for Delta (insert part number) to find suppliers that suit you best.

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I will try that. I have an ohm meter, but im not sure how to check the speed adjustment. Would i just check the ends of the wires that go to it? Should I check them at different "speeds" ?

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Looking at images of the speed control it seems to be a potentiometer.

With the power disconnected, test between the two outer terminals and then test between the middle and each outer terminal.

As you turn the knob the resistance should change when measuring between the middle and each outer terminal.

Usually with potentiometers the middle connection is the "wiper" that moves along the resistor that is connected between the two outer terminals so that you can vary the resistance you need which affects the current or voltage

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Ok, so I checked, and the power switch is completely unresponsive. I will check the potentiometer (rheostat?) now.

Do you think that there is a capacitor in there somewhere? I asked a guy at a tool store (who was very knowledgeable) and he said that the symptoms i remember from when it did run sounded like it was a capacitor issue. but Copilot said that the capacitor is part of the "internal control assembly," specifically the "speed control/control box assembly" part 1349993 or 1347403

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If there is a capacitor it's not obvious in the image of the speed controller that I linked above which has the same part number as you posted

It looks like a standard potentiometer.

Also there's no separate capacitor shown in the parts list either.

Maybe it doesn't need one.

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Here are some suggestions I gave when the question referred to a similar situation but with a grinder. I am reposting it here because the basic principles are similar.

Please forgive the possibly unnecessary details if you are a DIYer yourself:

I take it is not a brush-less motor

I also assume you know about electrics and have at least a multimeter

Before opening the grinder: Unplug the unt. Then with the multimeter set to read resistance (low to medium scale) connect leads (polarity doesn't matter) to the two prongs of the grinder's plug. Then make sure to press the 'on/off' switch to the ON position. Now rapidly twist or spin the disc/blade (motor) by hand. A reading will indicate if the grinder windings are OK. An analogue multimeter with needle pointer works best. Depending on the direction of twist, the meter will read either a quick positive or negative reading (or the analogue meter's needle will move either way).

In your case I assume no pointer movement or reading on a digital multimeter.

Now you'll have to open (dissasemble) the grinder.

Once open, first check for an obvious fault such as a disconnected cord supply wire.

If all looks OK, check continuity (zero ohms reading) from the plug prongs to where the individual cord leads are screwed in in the grinder (you can follow the colors of the individual wires). Check each screwed in lead at a time with your multimeter connected to a prong then first the one wire inside the grinder then the other. Then the same with the other prong. Also, while checking, physically move/twist the cable and see if you occasionally get a reading which means there is an intermittent connect/disconnect fault with the cables internal leads - a very good sign to replace it.

If both prongs show a zero reading (ie continuity) it means the supply cable is OK. If one prong shows no reading then that particular lead has opened inside the insulation where it is not possible to see. If this is the case, replace the power cord. This is often the case with a much used corded appliance and the break is most likely where the cord enters the device via a long rubber grommet. Lots of flexing takes place here while working.

All OK so far? Then check if you see a capacitor (a yellow, black or blue block usually with two leads) Unless it's obviously damaged/burned or a lead is disconnected/broken, you'll have to test it to establish if it's OK - or just replace it if the next tests are all OK. They're cheap. (The capacitance and voltage rating should be visible on the component.)

Now check the state of the brushes normally found on such tools. One or both may be worn or broken/cracked/scoured. Make sure there's continuity from the supply wires to both the brushes with your multimeter and/or visually follow the wires.

While you're at it, closely inspect visible field and armature windings for obvious breaks or discoloring indicating overheating.

If the grinder was last used (just before it would not switch on again) on a very 'tough' job requiring for example a very lengthy grind or one needing excessive force, then a thermal overload protection fuse could be the culprit if it opened (permanently) due to having exceeded it's heat protection rating. This will then open circuit so that no multimeter continuity can be measured cross it. This tiny fuse is wired in series with a field coi and is difficult to spot because it's usually shrink-sleeved and imbedded in the coil wires. I have replaced some of these myself but it's a tricky job - the field coil wires are often hair thin.

If it's not this fuse you will be able to read continuity when measuring across the field windings (from one brush connector to the other brush connector). If no continuity and the fuse is intact, suspect a possible break somewhere in a field wire - almost impossible to spot as it may be hidden in the densely wound and lacquered coils.

If OK it's time to disassemble further and remove the armature. With it removed, first chech the commutator copper segments for damags/excessive wear or shorts between any two of them. If OK, measure continuity between opposite segments. If no reading, suspect the armature winding have a discontinuity - also difficult to spot with the naked eye.

Good luck. Let me know what you find.

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