Einleitung

IAmA on Reddit mit Kyle Wiens, iFixit's CEO, der über das MacBook Pro mit Retina Display spricht!

Das ist es: Das "Auserwählte" MacBook Pro. Während die anderen MBPs nur die jährliche Standard-Aufrüstung erhalten haben, wurden diesem Modell ein Retina Display, ein schmaleres Profil, zwei Thunderbolt Ports, ein HDMI Port in voller Größe und weniger nervige Lüfter verliehen. Laut Apple ist es damit "der besten Apple Computer aller Zeiten".

Obwohl Apple schon einiges über das Innenleben des MacBook Pros verraten hat, hat uns das nicht wirklich überzeugt. Sei mit von der Partie, wenn wir uns heute genauer anschauen, was an diesem MacBook Pro so besonders ist.

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Dieser Teardown ist keine Reparaturanleitung. Um dein MacBook Pro 15" Retina Display Mid 2012 zu reparieren, verwende unsere Fehlerbehebungsseite.

  1. Mac Liebhaber aufgepasst, das Warten hat ein Ende! Jetzt können wir endlich herausfinden, was sich im Inneren des neuen MacBook Pro befindet.
    • Mac Liebhaber aufgepasst, das Warten hat ein Ende! Jetzt können wir endlich herausfinden, was sich im Inneren des neuen MacBook Pro befindet.

    • Also, was ist es nun, was die ganze Technikwelt so in Aufregung versetzt?

      • 15,4" LED hintergrundbeleuchtetes Retina Display mit IPS mit einer Auflösung von 2880 x 1800 bei 220 ppi

      • Intel Ivy Bridge Core-i7 Prozessor mit Turbo Boost und Intel HD Graphics 4000

      • 8 GB 1600 MHz DDR3L RAM

      • NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M mit 1 GB GDDR5 VRAM

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  2. Ein kurzer Blick auf die Seite des MacBook Pro mit Retina Display zeigt einige Upgrades:
    • Ein kurzer Blick auf die Seite des MacBook Pro mit Retina Display zeigt einige Upgrades:

      • MagSafe 2

      • Zwei (!) Thunderbolt Ports

      • Den ersten von zwei USB 3.0 Ports

      • Eine 3,5 mm Standard-Kopfhörerbuchse (buh)

    • Auf der rechten Seite des MacBooks befinden sich ein SD Kartenleser, der zweite USB 3.0 Port und ein HDMI Ausgang in voller Größe.

    • Auf beiden Seiten sind Öffnungen für die Lufteinzüge des neuen Kühlsystems zu finden, aber mehr dazu später.

    Any sign of a security slot? Even if I was sitting nearby not using it, I'd be terrified to leave one on a desk unless it could be secured.

    junk - Antwort

    You say, "A standard 3.5mm headphone jack (boo)". What justifies the "boo" in this case? Missing optical, is my best guess. Does it not support the iPhone style inline headset/volume? Is there some other issue with it?

    Owen Imholte - Antwort

    No, it's just that it's not new and exciting like the other ports.

    David Hodson -

    • Das neue Design des Displays ließ keinen Platz für das übliche "MacBook Pro" Logo auf der schmalen Blende.

    • Aber unten am Computer ist jede Menge Platz für das Logo. Wenn dir keiner glaubt, dass es sich um ein echtes MacBook Pro handelt, dann brauchst du es nur umzudrehen.

    • Dank all dieser Upgrades hat dieses Pro eine neue Modellnummer erhalten: A1398.

      • Lass das mal eine Minute auf dich einwirken: Apple hat endlich eine neue MacBook Pro Modellnummer eingeführt! (Es sind die kleinen Dinge des Lebens, die glücklich machen.)

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    • Wie sieht ein Apple Logo oder ein Finder Icon aus 220 Pixels pro Zoll aus der Nähe aus?

      • Wie ein Haufen bunter, eckiger Punkte.

    • Spaß beiseite, die Auflösung dieses Displays ist wirklich unglaublich. Es besteht kein Zweifel daran, dass die Produktionskosten des Retina Displays beim 2200$ (Einstiegs-) Preis des neuen MacBook Pro eine große Rolle spielen.

    Is it me or do I see 5 stuck pixels on that small close-up of the screen?

    msu320 - Antwort

    Yeah, stuck pixels, but not on MB display but in CMOS sensor fo the camera probably ;)

    Alex -

    • Wir lieben Herausforderungen, und das ist gut so, denn im Gegensatz zu den vorherigen Generationen ist dieses MacBook Pro durch die proprietären Schrauben von Apple gesichert.

    • Mit angehaltenem Atem entfernen wir einen Haufen proprietärer Schrauben mit unserem Pentalobe Schraubendreher.

    • Endlich sind wir im Inneren!

    What size of pentalobe is this?

    haloerika - Antwort

    It's 1.2.

    Btw, where are the 3 longest screw located ?

    Roberto Sonzogni - Antwort

  3. What's the deal with the two magnets in the middle of the case, just above the batteries?

    Scott Lawrence - Antwort

    Hey Scott. Those magnets are used to hold the rear cover close to the body of the MacBook Pro. The screws hold it in place around the perimeter, but the magnets keep the large aluminum panel from acting like a drum, flapping about and such. In the MacBook Air, Apple uses plastic clips to accomplish the same task.

    Brett Hartt -

    • Mit 95 Wh bei 10,95 V ist der neue Akku ziemlich leistungsstark, verglichen mit den mickrigen 77,5 Wh von letztem Jahr.

    • Zwei Dinge haben sich allerdings nicht geändert: die Akkulaufzeit von 7 Stunden und die nervige Erinnerung daran, dass Apple meint, du seist nicht in der Lage deinen eigenen Akku zu warten.

      • Achtung Spoiler: Vielleicht haben sie ja recht.

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    • Es ist immer eine gute Idee, deinen Akku zu trennen, bevor du das Innere deiner Geräte ausbaust.

    • Obwohl der Warnaufkleber ziemlich groß ist, hat Apple vergessen vor möglichen Stromschlägen zu warnen, falls der Akku vorm Herumbasteln nicht getrennt wird. Kann es sein, dass Apple uns hier gar nicht erwartet hat?

    "While Apple seems to have an extensive warning label, it fails to mention potential shocks by failing to disconnect the battery during gadget surgery. Is it possible Apple wasn't expecting us?"

    Actually, I think they did. :)

    Is that normal that the Model number is not the same in and out of the computer? (A1398 & A1417)

    Mr Bob - Antwort

    Those are the computer and battery model numbers, respectively. They've done that for a while now.

    David Hodson -

  4. Frohes Fest, frohes Tüfteln
    Erhalte 12 € Rabatt auf deinen Einkauf ab 50 € mit dem Code FIXMAS12.
    Frohes Fest, frohes Tüfteln
    Erhalte 12 € Rabatt auf deinen Einkauf ab 50 € mit dem Code FIXMAS12.
    • Großartige Neuigkeiten. Der Akku ist nicht mehr in das Gerät eingeschraubt.

    • Furchtbare Neuigkeiten. Apple hat entschieden das gefürchtete K-Wort zu benutzten: Kleber.

    • Wir kümmern uns zuerst um zugänglichere Komponenten und kümmern uns dann später um den Akku.

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    • Jetzt kommen wir zu den guten Dingen, angefangen mit der SSD. Wir haben ein 512 GB Samsung Flash Speichermodul gefunden.

    • Die Chips sind folgendermaßen gekennzeichnet:

      • Samsung S4LJ204X01 3-core ARM SSD Controller Chip - die Neufassung scheint neuer als die 830er Serien SSD zu sein.

      • Samsung 213 K9UHGY8U7A 20nm MLC NAND Chips

      • Samsung 201 K4T263140F 256MB DDR2-800 Zwischenspeicher

    • Proprietäre Flash-Speicher sind bei Apple nichts Neues. Allerdings sind sie bei den MacBook Pros neu.

    This is the same SSD controller used in the Samsung 830. This is a very good thing. I remember seeing a Toshiba SSD module as well which I think uses a Sandforce controller. Performance characteristics are a bit different. I wonder when one is used over the other.

    Joon Park - Antwort

    Is this SSD compatible with the one in Air 2012?

    Thanks.

    Jon - Antwort

    The chip number on the RAM is K4T2G314QF-MCF7 (Q, not 0, as noted in Step 10)

    These part numbers also noted in my news post here (linking back to you guys):

    http://www.pcper.com/news/Storage/New-Ma...

    My performance review of the Samsung 830 Series, for those interested:

    http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Storage/Sam...

    I'm thrilled to see such a great controller in the new MacBooks!

    Best,

    Allyn Malventano

    Storage Editor, PC Perspective

    Allyn Malventano - Antwort

    The SSD card is using a standard mSATA connector and layout. The size of the board is proprietary, but the pinout and the signal standards are maintained.

    So, it's possible to build a replacement SSD for the macbook pro Retina. I expect our friends at OWC and others to start making 512, 768 and 1024GB upgrades available. Perhaps faster, since they have shown they have access to the same high-speed controllers and chips.

    -M

    Martin Bogomolni - Antwort

    Is it confirm that the physical size of SSD in R-MBP is the same as MBA? If so, that will be a good news for replace or upgrade.

    Tembo Hu -

    K9UHGY8U7A is the same 25nm MLC NAND as in the Samsung 830.

    As others noted, the controller is also identical to the 830 (The MCX). Not a newer revision.

    Samsung new NAND in the 840 is 21nm. There is no such thing as 20nm NAND from Samsung.

    The 21nm MLC is K9HFGY8U5A

    and the TLC is K9CFGY8U5A

    Just want to avoid spreading wrong information

    Anh Man Tran - Antwort

    I have chatted with two different reps, online, both of whom say that the just-released Retina MacBook Pros come with solid state drives that are soldered onto the motherboard. They also say it can be repaired by Mac, but they avoided the question of upgrading or replacing (if it's beyond in-place repair). Can somebody please look into this?

    bob - Antwort

    • Auf den ersten Blick ähnelt die AirPort Karte im MacBook Pro derjenigen, die wir im MacBook Air von Mitte 2012 gefunden haben.

    • Beim genaueren Hinsehen ist das jedoch nicht der Fall:

      • Broadcom BCM4331 802.11n Zwei-Band kabellose Single-Chip-Lösung

      • Broadcom BCM20702 Single-Chip Bluetooth 4.0 HCI Lösung mit Bluetooth Low Energy (BLE) Unterstützung

      • Skyworks WiFi Block

        • 2x SE5515 Zwei-Band- FrontEnds

        • 2.4GHz SE2598L und 5GHz SE5019T Sendeleistungsverstärker

        • 2.4GHz SKY65405 and 5GHz SKY65404 Low-Noise Empfangsverstärker

    @mr2incredible Is this upgradable to AC WiFi?

    Padraic Hoselton - Antwort

    • Eine Halterung, einige Antennenkabel und ein paar Schrauben später gelangen wir endlich zur Crème de la Crème, dem Lüfter mit asymmetrischem Flügelabstand.

    • Theoretisch werden entstehenden Geräusche durch die Asymmetrie über mehrere Frequenzen verteilt, sodass sie weniger hörbar sind.

    • Dieser Lüfter wurde in fast allen Berichten über das MacBook Pro mit Retina Display erwähnt. Es überrascht uns, wie viel Aufmerksamkeit eine Änderung des Flügelabstandes erhält. Aber es zeigt, wie sehr Apple auf kleine Details achtet, die von der restlichen Industrie übersehen werden, und das alles für den Komfort des Kunden.

    They used to do the same thing with radiator fans in cars (back when they were belt driven). Not so much for noise reduction, but to reduce vibration (which is pretty much the same thing when you think about it).

    ian351c - Antwort

    • Als nächstes ist das I/O Board an der Reihe, das einen der beiden USB 3.0 Ports sowie den SD Kartenleser beherbergt.

      • Wir finden es sehr gut, dass dieses Pro auf beiden Seiten über einen USB 3.0 Port verfügt. Endlich haben wir eine Lösung für die Probleme mit 30cm zu kurzen Kabeln und für USB-Sticks, Maus-Dongles und USB Spielzeuge, die einen Zentimeter zu breit sind.

    • Das I/O Board enthält ebenfalls einen Broadcom BCM57100 series Gigabit Ethernet + Speicherkartenlesen Controller. Der Ethernet-Controller ist durch einen separat verkauften Thunderbolt-Adapter zugänglich.

    • ParadeTech PS8401A HDMI Jitter Cleaning 3 Gbps HDMI Repeater

    "The Ethernet controller is accessible through the separately-sold Thunderbolt adapter."

    Do you really think this is the controller that is accessed with the thunderbold adapter?

    First: it is on the other side of the computer...

    Second: the adapter itself has the ethernet controller on board?!

    So what do you mean by that statement?

    derbroti - Antwort

    I would also like to know whether the onboard ethernet is really wired up? It identifies as 14e4:16a3 "Broadcom Corporation Device 16a3 (rev 21)". I do not think it is used in the Thunderbolt ethernet adaptor, since the thunderbolt adaptor has its own onboard BCM57762 ethernet controller. So what is the point of including ethernet in the Macbook itself? Can it be used?

    Chris -

    this might sound dumb at first but i think it actually works with the airport wireless NIC somehow. (en0)

    tjt263 -

    I realize that this is like 3 years too late but its’s for the 10gbps (sort of) point-to-point ethernet connection you can make by connecting two Macs together via thunderbolt.

    Ted -

    • Als nächstes ist die Einheit aus Prozessor, GPU Kühlkörper und Abluftöffnung an der Reihe.

      • Indem die Luft durch eine Verengung geleitet wird, bevor sie die äußeren Öffnungen erreicht, wird ein zusätzlicher Druckabfall erzeugt (aufgrund der Schubspannung der Flüssigkeit an den Seitenwänden), der die Luft beschleunigt und schneller aus dem Computer herausdrückt.

    • Nachdem das letzte Hindernis aus dem Weg geräumt ist, kann das Logic Board recht mühelos herausgeholt werden.

    Are you sure that isn't an Apple proprietary memory daughterboard connector between the CPU and the top row of RAM chips?? Seems to me that would be an easy way to upgrade from 8GB to 16GB of RAM...

    emoon1 - Antwort

    interesting, can you elaborate on this?

    tjt263 -

    • Auf der Vorderseite des Logic Boards befinden sich unter anderem:

      • NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M GPU

      • Intel Core-i7 3720QM 2,6 GHz Prozessor (Turbo Boost bis zu 3,6 GHz) mit Intel Graphics HD 4000.

      • Anscheinend ein Intel E208B284 Platform Controller Hub

      • Hynix H5TC2G83CFR DDR3L SDRAM

      • Intel DSL3510L Thunderbolt Controller

    So I guess there is no easy way to upgrade the RAM...

    You cannot swap new/bigger memory bars.

    Can you confirm?

    Thank you!

    Francois Massart - Antwort

    You're stuck with the RAM you buy. There's no way to upgrade the RAM unless you switch out the entire logic board.

    Miroslav Djuric -

  5. Just some random ad…

    Aiden Baker - Antwort

    • Auf der Rückseite des Logic Boards finden wir:

      • Hynix H5TC2G83CFR DDR3L SDRAM 2Gbit 1600MHz Chips

      • Hynix H5GQ2H24AFR - 2,5GHz 2Gbit GDDR5 Speicher-Chips

      • Texas Instruments Stellaris LM4FS1AH Mikrocontroller mit integriertem ARM core

      • Renesas R4F2113 H8S series CISC MCU

      • Maxim MAX15119 Apple-spezifischer IMVP7 CPU/GPU Power Controller

      • Cypress Halbleiter CY8C24794-24L - ein programmierbarer SoC

    Notice that the Lattice FPGA used in previous MBP models to switch the LVDS display signal between the two GPUs ("GMUX") has been replaced with a TI HD3SS212 DisplayPort switch.

    dfskjfksa - Antwort

    • Die Kopfhörerbuchse sitzt ziemlich fest, aber das kann uns nicht aufhalten.

    • In diese Buchse werden die Kopfhörer oder die Lautsprecher eingesteckt. Wir sind allerdings nicht sicher, warum du nicht das fabelhafte von Apple speziell konstruierte Lautsprechersystem benutzen wollen würdest ...

    Any chance that it can be used as Line In as well? or only using the iPhone headphones mic (4th position of Tip, Ring, Sleeve, Sheath) And optical in and out?

    Will Mayo - Antwort

    yes i believe it doubles as a line in/line out

    tjt263 -

    • ...ah, da sind sie ja schon: die Lautsprecher.

    • Apple behauptet, das ihre speziell konstruierten Lautsprecher "jeden Quadratmilimeter" im Inneren des MacBook Pro nutzen. Bei 2200$ hoffen wir allerdings auch, dass es sich nicht nur um Plug-and-Play handelt.

    • Die dualen DXEC02 bottom-port Knowles MEMS Mikrofone (mit Job ID/ Bandnummern) befinden sich unter (oder auf?) der linken Lautsprechereinheit. Sie nutzten einen "adaptiven strahlenbündelnden Algorithmus", um Hintergrundgeräusche auszuschalten. Das vereinfacht die Gespräche mit deinem Computer Skype-Anrufe und verbessert die Spracherkennung.

    Does the audio port have optical digital?

    Benjamin Green - Antwort

    From the Apple specs sheet neither this new MacBook Pro or the new MacBook Air have digital outputs. Just looking at the connector in the disassembly photos it appears to be true - Sorry

    Dan -

    • Ein paar Kabel und große Scharnierschrauben befestigen das Display, aber nicht mehr lange.

    • Das Retina Display LCD befindet sich in der Display-Einheit, und bleibt auch dort. So wie es aussieht, mußt du die gesamte Display-Einheit austauschen, falls irgendeine der Komponenten kaputt geht.

      • Und vergiß nicht, dass die Display-Einheit auch die FaceTime Kamera, die Wi-Fi Antennen sowie die Bluetooth Antennen enthält.

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    • Da wollte wohl jemand absolut nicht, dass der Akku im MacBook Pro aus dem oberen Gehäuse herauskommt.

    • Mit unserem iFixit 15cm Metall-Lineal haben wir tapfer versucht, den Akku aus seinem Aluminiumgehäuse zu befreien, aber vergeblich. Um zu vermeiden, versehentlich eine Lithium Polymer Akkuzelle zu beschädigen, haben wir sie lieber an ihrem Platz gelassen.

    • Um die ganze Sache noch komplizierter zu machen, befindet sich das TrackPad Flachbandkabel unter dem Akku. Beim Versuch, den Akku vom oberen Gehäuse wegzuhebeln, könnte das empfindliche Kabel leicht kaputt gehen, und das wäre schlecht.

    What about heat to free the batteries? Since the case is metal, what are the thoughts of gradually heating the case, until the glue begins to loosen up? Naturally, you'd want to do that with as much other stuff removed as possible.

    I think the key would be a precision heating of the case (not just hitting the batteries with a heat gun), learning what the meltio0ng point is and not going a degree above that!

    John Rees - Antwort

    Are the battery modules glued to some kind of common rack, which can be then taken out as a whole or are they individually glued to enclosures frame?

    Michael Seydl - Antwort

    The warning label for the batteries says 100 °C. I bet the glue is hot melt and it turns to butter at some temperature well below that. Apple offers battery replacement service so there has to be some reliable way to un-bond the glue.

    I bet at about medium well (160 °F or 71 °C) the batteries fall right out.

    Dave Adams - Antwort

    Have your tried a swab of rubbing alcohol on the glue holding the batteries? If it's hot melt adhesive, they'll cleanly pop right off.

    Phil Burgess - Antwort

    Suggest trying "Undu" - scrapbooker's adhesive remover. Brilliant stuff. (chemical = hexane) Dissolves the pressure sensitive adhesive glue bond, then evaporates leaving the adhesive still sticky for reuse. I have used it on iPhone battery with success.

    B Louis - Antwort

    So... while I generally agree with everything said here, I wanted to address the battery issue. I've now stripped out 7x highly used and dying, or damaged batteries without damaging them. I use a 1-1/2" wide very stiff (with a dull front edge, similar to this: http://www.walmart.com/ip/32522800?wmlsp...). I them wrap the entire blade in electrical tape to soften edges. Then, coming at various strategic angles (depends on which portion of the battery I'm removing), I go under each. From a top down view with the battery at the bottom and the logic board on top, the two middle portions are the most difficult (with the middle one on the right being the trickiest) to remove. Leave the two middle portions for last... for one, that's where the trackpad ribbon/trackpad guard is, but also simply because u can go underneath the outside portions to get to those (once you've gotten the outside portions lifted away).

    jcarter - Antwort

    • Das MacBook Pro mit Retina Display 15" Mitte 2012 erhält 1 von 10 Punkten auf unserer Reparierbarkeitsskala (10 ist am einfachsten zu reparieren).

    • Die proprietären Pentalobe Schrauben verhindern den Zugang zum Inneren des Gerätes.

    • Wie auch beim MacBook Air, ist das RAM auf das Logic Board gelötet. Du solltest also jetzt gleich ans Maximum von 16 GB gehen, denn ein späteres Aufrüsten ist nicht möglich.

    • Die proprietäre SSD ist ebenfalls (noch) nicht aufrüstbar, sie ähnelt der im MacBook Air aber die beiden sind nicht identisch. Es ist eine separate Tochterkarte, aber wir hoffen, in naher Zukunft ein Upgrade anbieten zu können.

    • Der Lithium Polymer Akku ist in das Gehäuse eingeklebt und nicht geschraubt, das Risiko, dass er beim Ausbau kaputt geht ist daher größer. Der Akku bedeckt außerdem das Trackpad Kabel, was für den Nutzer beim Ausbau des Akkus das Risiko ungemein vergrößert, dieses Kabel zu durchschneiden.

    • Die Display-Einheit ist komplett verschweißt, und es gibt keine schützende Glasabdeckung. Falls irgendetwas im Inneren des Displays kaputt geht, muss die gesamte, extrem teure Einheit ersetzt werden.

    "MacBook Air 13" Mid 2012 Repairability Score: 1 out of 10 (10 is easiest to repair)." Macbook Pro you mean?

    Jason Martin - Antwort

    Sorry, it was a late night.

    Miroslav Djuric -

    It’s 15 inches, isn’t it?

    Frank - Antwort

    it's MacBook PRO, and it's 15'' isn't it?

    Tyler - Antwort

    I would argue against the last point "display assembly is completely fused".

    Replacing parts with any laptop usually requires a cheap alternative. For he majority of time. It is the RAM, Harddrive, etc.

    You rarely see screens or monitors replaced and when they are replaced you dont just replace the panel you replace the entire screen.

    For DDR ram, in order to run at 1600MHz a better design is to ditch SO-DIMM modules.

    FACT: You can run any RAM at a faster Hz when it is directly soldered to the board.

    asd1815dev - Antwort

    Can you tell whether there is space and a way to fit a sata drive in for additional disk space?

    Tay Zombulovich - Antwort

    If you take out one of the fans or the battery cells, sure. I wouldn't suggest doing either of those, though.

    David Hodson -

    So the glass covering the display is gone? Can the writers please confirm?

    A feature of the last few MBPs was the glass display, this is now gone?

    On a side note, I wish random comments like "I wouldn't recommend this to anyone" can be deleted. NO ONE really cares and is not asking for "Joe" off the Internet for his reccomendation.

    Surge - Antwort

    SSD Upgrade: Check out OWC's Aura/Aura Pro 6G... or Transcends Jetdrive 720 (with a 960GB option!!)

    Applecare: Yes, when buying the retina (especially if like myself... you have the top end models (2.7/2.8GHz i7 16GB DDR3 768GB SSD), you should invest in applecare. Buy it on ebay if you want to save a bit of cash. I got my first 15" retina applecare on ebay (regularly $349) for $245. Granted, that was some time ago. But still, saved $100. And my macbook pro retina was $3400. Well worth the $249, even if just to get the parts for free. LOL. I have since had 4x retina displays replaced because of image ghosting, and 2x replaced because of logic board issues (I own 75+ macs for work). Applecare is worth it for expensive machines. Even if you work on them yourself and are a certified mac tech like me. Still worth it.

    jcarter - Antwort

    In my opinion the MBP retina 15 is as close as it gets to be a perfect product. I've got the 2012 maxed out version, and still have no need for any upgrade, the 16GB RAM is still way more than necessary, the i7 still screams, and I still have more than 100GB free space.

    At the time I bought it, I was looking for desktopclass performance on the go, plenty of batterylife, 15" Screen and <= 2kg to carry around. It can do all that, which is very impressive to have the paradox of light, but powerfull + powerfull but, good batterylife.

    And thats where realtiy hits. If you would now want to merge these two impressive feats with repairabilty it will get thick and heavier. There is no Hattrick possible here, you can make two out of three work, but one is the sacrifice fo another.

    And if you dont need any uprades in 3 years or more, than it doesnt have to be repairable, opt for Apple Care and youre good to go, and the one and only thing that needs replacement down the road, the SSD, is replaceable.

    JMI - Antwort

    I agree. I didn't get a maxed out version but mine still runs so fast and the batteries are still like new in my opinion. I feel no need to buy a new Mac yet, I don't even think the Mac seems any slower than it did the day I bought it, even with all of the new OS versions. I use Final Cut Pro to edit multiple 1080p/60 streams and it handles everything. The photo of the Mac with the back off looks like a work of art lol. I hate to sound like a hardcore Apple fanboy but its really good-looking inside and out. This was my first Mac and I can't imagine going back to Windows now.

    chris bizzelle -

    I felt just like @cxk (chris bizzelle) until I upgraded from Mavericks (10.9) to High Sierra (10.13). Yes, I waited that long, because everything Just Worked. But eventually some of my apps were no longer supported and Homebrew was not supported.

    What a difference. Instead of 1-3GB free physmem under my normal app load, I’m at roughly 300MB. Mail.app takes literally 500 to 800 milliseconds to respond to keypresses requesting things like “delete a message” or “display next message". Instead of ~250 entries in the process table for an idle, no-Apps open state, I’m closer to 300.

    This is clearly not a criticism of the 2012 MBP, but rather of Apple for making a wonderful machine slow by releasing a bloated, poor-quality macOS release. They ought to be ashamed. If I could find a copy of the 10.11 installer, I’d seriously consider going back to an older release. Oh I know — they want me to buy a new laptop instead! I like the features of my current MacBook Pro, thank you very much. Grr.

    Chris Johnson - Antwort

    I did the same - upgraded from Mavericks to High Sierra - and was also wondering about the low free memory (also about 300 MB). I think it’s because of “inactive” memory. When you close an app, OS doesn’t free up the memory that it used, but rather marks it as inactive, so that if you relaunch the app it will load faster. If another app needs memory, but there is not enough free memory, it will free up some inactive memory to make it availble for the newly launched app.

    Found a question about it on stackexchange: https://apple.stackexchange.com/a/4323

    Btw, if you use iStat Menus, you can check a box (in iStat Menus 6.0 at least) under the memory section “Hide inactive memory” and it will show only “wired” and “active” memory used, so you get a better feeling of how much memory is available.

    Joakim Borregaard -

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Igal Neshto - Antwort

I too would like to know more about the panel.

Nicholas Shanks -

ifixit probably afraid of damaging the pricey display.

User ONE -

what about the keyboard? not replaceable?

xkiller213 - Antwort

no trace of LIQUID METAL share?????

12345 - Antwort

Apple is ridiculous.

Why continue in this way, far from the idea to be near his customer.

Glue the battery, pffff, can not be explain ....

I will keep away from this computer.

Sorry to see this ....

Mathieu Vilaplana - Antwort

"You'll be missed!" -- Randal

no way -

Please post information regarding the FaceTime HD webcamera. Thanks!

Martin - Antwort

I don't particularly see how people can say that they couldn't recommend this to anyone, unless regardless of what it's repairability rating was, you weren't going to recommend it to anyone either way. I mean, most people have, IDK, a mom or a girlfriend, or even just a friend that is comfortable with neither doing repairs and replacements themselves or having you do it? I replaced the memory in my MBP before I ever turned it on, and changed out the HD after I was set up, but I'd be lying if I said everyone I knew was like me. Even myself, if I'm shelling out $2200 (You can max out at $3500ish :O) on a computer I'd probably invest in Apple Care.

Anyways, of course I AM not excited about anything that would be hard to replace, but only because of my own preferences and a few people I know. I know more people than not whom won't be affected by that.

driftej20 - Antwort

While I agree that these things don't make me want to avoid this machine, I'm not sure the point of suggesting that one's "mom or girlfriend" are the intended audience because they're not technically savvy.

In a world where Linus Torvalds runs a Macbook Air, it's extremely condescending to suggest that a Macbook Pro, due to its non-expandability, is only appropriate for women.

no way -

In any case, if I have a scenario where a faulty RAM needs to be replaced, the only solution then is to only order the entire logic board. Will not that cost you closer to getting a new one. Was this new MBP retina built to last. What would be the possible cost of owership this has to the end user?

ADB

Arly Borja - Antwort

R4F2113 is a Renesas 16-Bit Single-Chip Microcomputer H8S Family / H8S/2100 Series

Dan - Antwort

As for the soldered-in RAM: I believe that they've figured out what the probability of failure of RAM is, and it must be low enough that it's not likely that RAM will be failing more often than anything else on the board. If you want replaceable RAM, why stop there: you could have a replaceable CPU. And GPU! And why not something else as well. See where it goes? RAM is not special in any way.

Kuba Ober - Antwort

Thats exactly the point! Engineers have labored to make all of these parts modular and Apple is taking their notebooks in the completely wrong direction. Gaming notebooks have had MXM graphics card slots for a long time now. It is not only environmentally unfriendly to solder RAM to the board, but also prevents upgrades! Boo Apple!

Honorius -

HELLO, from ex. NOKIA COUNTRY (Finland). Nokia is closing Finland-Salo-Factory soon. Will buy Apple iPhone as soon the v.5 is out.

Back to the Apple Macbook Pro - retina. I'd say, do the same disassembly later too. Maybe in one month Apple have done changes to the construction and you'll see that the battery will be connected using screws and also will be changed more easily. What I'm saying is that I think that Apple is trying to mess up with media and is also trying to create an illusion that all the service needs to be done in repairshops. I don't think that even Apple is that dumb that would make products unserviceable.

-JMO-

Mika - Antwort

I have have computers for more than 20 years now and NEVER had a case of failed ram. I had a Thinkpad that need to replace the... logic board :P They were covered by the 3 year warranty, so I did not pay anything. Also had a HP that needed logic board replacement. Never had problems with desktops.

Witch brings me to my next point: they have warranty, If you are worried about it, buy extended warranty.

The only way to make smaller and lighter notebooks is this, why carry 500g more all day just for the chance to upgrade your ram or pay less in case of a failure out of warranty? Everyone is complaining but it doesn´t make any sense. Buy heavier and larger notebooks them!

Thiago Gallo - Antwort

All i can hear a big sucking sound, your money being sucked up by Apple. When you purchase this abomination called computer and when it needs repair. This is how they were in the 80's and they have returned to same position in the 2012. Proprietary piece of crap, that is like a expensive Bic lighter, toss it and get a new one.

LeCritique - Antwort

Bingo!

brunobgl -

This teardown was for the R-MBP, but what about the non R models? I guess were awaiting a teardown to confirm but from the options on apple it would seem the non-R's have a standard 2.5" drive bay and perhaps removable/upgradeable memory; in which case this might be the better mac to get? I await more info and am checking iFixit every day awaiting another teardown to confirm my suspicions?!?

Steve Hardy - Antwort

My concern is the length of time that AppleCare can be obtained. It is obvious that a machine this expensive needs extended warranty support. But the day will come that like my Mac Pro 8-Core 3.0 GHz Xeon, extensions to the AppleCare warrantee are not available at any price. I haven't inquired, but it may be that 3 years is the limit, after which the cost of repairs is astronomical, no matter what has gone wrong. My previous MacBook Pro, 17" HD, had a coffee spilled into it. Apple said the repairs weren't covered and wanted to replace, 1 The upper panel, 2. The optical drive, 3. the hard drive, 4, the logic board, 5. the video card, 6. the wifi card, 7. the keyboard... They wanted more to fix the machine than the ring market price for that model. That was one expensive cup of coffee, and it was hard not to be mad at the person who dumped it. Also since all the parts are soldered on, if any covered repair is required, it will probably entail a logic board change, and I would end up sending in the machine. Something I don't like doing will all my precious data on board. I like my Apple equipment, but all this is hard to take.

Douglas Goodall - Antwort

Imagine if cars were built this way:

- assembled with non-standard fasteners

- consumable parts cast into the engine block

- disassembly requires destroying other parts

Oops ... maybe I shouldn't say that too loudly...

Joe - Antwort

- It's basically a MacBook Air Pro. They are confusing the MacBook Pro line by doing this. They are also *#%&#@$ off people like me by jettisoning the 17" MacBook Pro. What I did notice is that they got the prices jacked up so high they now are about the same as an old 17" model fully decked out -- This goes for both the basic and Retina models. Yuck.

- Also, this is the first full, formal product release since Jobs croaked. It looks like they are taking a turn toward the closed-source side. I don't like the way this Compaq guy is running things. Late 90s Compaqs sucked for various proprietary hardware design and reliability reasons. I don't want new Macs to suck.

- The score here is basically a ZERO. No Apple computer should ever get a zero on any measure. They are dishonoring Jobs' legacy.

ingyhere - Antwort

I would have to dispute your "reparability" score.

It looks very easy to open up and replace the components.

What you should say is the "upgradability" is difficult.

Since you sell tools for upgrade, that should be considered a conflict of interest.

Steve Rea - Antwort

And this teardown explains the 65% Apple care discount for this device. A big ouch for this one indeed. It's a challenge to pry open, tear down, and might have high repair cost after 4 years.

Budi Nugroho - Antwort

Thes screen is only a one piece or have a plastic protection film ?

My screen have a superficial detail i dont know if i need change the complete screen ? the screen see perfect, only this superficial detail...

Thanks ¡¡¡

DreaDy2013 - Antwort

can the 802.11ac WiFi card from the late 2013 model work in the mid 2012 model?

cyglenn - Antwort

I swapped the mid-2012 wifi module with the 2013 wifi module and my iWatch works perfectly to unlock my system (the iWatch is not compatible with the mid-2012 module).

winterg -

Hi,

Anyone knows how to replace the hinges?

My screen is not aligned with base case properly so I'm thinking to do the hinges replacement.

jh75104 - Antwort

You can't. But you CAN align them. Remove the bottom, loosen the 6 screws of the hinges, and align the display. Tighten, and you're done. It is a 10 minute job.

Richard Rosenberger -

Why is the teardown of the MacBook Pro 15" Retina Display Mid 2012 not as detailed as the teardown of the MacBook Pro 17" Unibody Logic Board Replacement? This is not nearly as helpful as your other teardowns because of lack of detail. The battery can be replaced fairly easy with the use of Isoproyl alcohol 99.9% pure. Use a syringe to squirt it under the batteries and then work it around under them. Let it set a few minutes to soften the glue and then began prying the batteries up. As you get the batteries to pry up a little, squirt some more alcohol under them again and let it sit a few more minutes. Then begin prying them up again. There is a metal cover between the two middle batteries and trackpad, protecting the trackpad ribbon cable. Make sure you stay between the battery and the metal cover as you pry the battery loose. Take your time and you will have no problem getting the batteries loose. It took me about 30 minutes.

Gregory Dixon - Antwort

I removed my battery using your method using 91% Isoproyl. It took a little work but it turned out great!! The battery is defiantly removable and not to difficult to do. So happy to see my computer up and running like normal.

Nick Fulton -

I'm surprised no one has tried a heat gun on the battery yet.

mpias - Antwort

I have, not recommended. Thankfully it was tested on an out of warranty one that was going to be binned anyway, but the batteries warped to the point that they no longer fit properly in the case, due to the fine tolerances. All in all, a completely shite design. What is wrong with a slimline plastic frame to hold batteries in place, and screws to hold the plastic in place? This is a top of the range computer, and it's batteries are held on with tape? Better check they didn't cable-tie the screen hinges ;)

sashahilton00 -

I purchased my RMBP in June 2012. I have used it everyday. My only breakdown so far has been the power cord. I purchased an after market power cord that lasted 6 months. I went to the Apple store last year and purchased a new Apple power cord. So far it has worked well, as has the RMBP. The battery still works, although doesn't keep a charge as long as it did when it was new. I would say it is 70% of what it was when new. I believe this is the best notebook computer I have ever owned. I have had at least 9 notebooks. I have been using computers since 1987. Before I started to use Macs I built my own computers, and enjoyed upgrading my desktops and notebooks. The non-upgradability of the RMBP has not bothered me in the least. I maxed out the memory and the SSD when I purchased it. I did not purchase the Apple Care. Still using my RMBP everyday. Although I plan on upgrading to the next RMBP that is released by Apple.

David Mascot - Antwort

CAn we upgrade from 8 gb to 16 gb ram ?

OR i get you wrong ?

Kaan Karal -

Agreed! I purchased my RMBP in December 2012 and its still going strong. The only issues I have are the fact that I can't upgrade to 16GB. Didn't want to shell out the extra $400 for the upgrade. The other one is the oleophobic coating has started to come off. Probably didn't help eating in front of the screen. Bad habit. But as David mentioned, this is the best computer I have ever owned and I have had them since the first IBM PC came out 35 years ago! My previous laptop was an HP Pavillion 17" gaming system that I paid more for ($2500) than the RMBP. I have always paid extra to get the best display available. Doesn't make sense that the screen you stare at for 8+ hours a day should be the best. With the two additional monitors plugged into the lightning and HDMI ports I still have a powerful and flexible system. Not to happy about the latest MBP with the USB-C port dongle nonsense. I also for the life of me can't figure out why all Apple power cables seem to last only a couple of years.

Robert Vinci -

Replace the whole display assembly!

I managed to find an exact 15" retina display assembly for $160 (an Apple genius want over $600) and replaced my damaged one. The ifixit's instructions is a straight forward. Make sure that you are calm when you reconnect the 3 tiny connectors back, yes very tiny. Thanks to fixit.

Adisak Ratana - Antwort

I managed to replace the 15" retina display assembly myself and save big bucks. I found the new exact display assembly for $160 on eBay. Apple store want over $600. when you do the works, pls make sure you are calm and in a good mood. The instruction is a strait forward. Thanks to ifixit.

Adisak Ratana - Antwort

I removed the battery using "paracord" of strong string to cut the tape underneath the battery in a garotte fashion. Worked a treat. new trackpad and battery win :) search "How to remove 15" MacBook Pro Retina Glued Battery with a Thread" on youtube.

contact - Antwort

Interesting, I found a few difffernces with mine. Same model and all, but my 512SSD is using a Marvell control chip, Samsung cache chip, and San disk nand flash memory chips. Maybe mine is made by crucial since it almost follows the Crucial M4 drives.

The Marvell controler is the Marvell 88SS9174-BLD2

Samsung cache is K4B4G1646B-HCK0

And the NAND memory is SanDisk 05055 064GA

This is an original MacBook Pro retina mid 2012 15 inch, but Apple did replace the SSD drive under apple care once. Maybe this is a faster one then the original one it came with?

ScottJD - Antwort

https://youtu.be/fupkPz55tUo How to replace 15" MacBook Pro Retina Glued Battery with a Thread - Part 1

nbeijer - Antwort

I had to replace my CPU/GPU heatsink paste to keep my 2012 Mac Retina from overheating https://fearby.com/article/case-overheat... High Sierra pushes this hardware to the max.

Simon - Antwort

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