Thank you so much for the information as Garmin Australia was absolutely no help at all when I asked them how to free the buttons that wouldn't move on my Fenix 3 watch. They said to soak it in a bowl of warm water for 10 minutes, remove and airdry, which did and absolutely no results. I re-phoned Garmin Australia and they said to purchase another watch, the Fenix 7 and they would give me a 20% discount. My watch initally cost $NZ1750 and you would think Garmin would have a service department, but apparently not. That's the last Garmin I will ever purchase and that includes any marine navigation products.